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【Cleopatra’s Daydream × Pastel Piano: A Hi-Fi Discussion】
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Cleopatra’s Daydream @cleopatrasdream · Sep 12
You can certainly listen to music on a modest system, but the emotional impact you receive is influenced by sound quality far more than people who don’t know Hi-Fi would ever imagine. Speaking in broad strokes, even things called high-end audio mostly sound to me like they’re lacking in bass. Soundstaging gets talked about a lot, but it’s almost always about the sense of spread in the mid and upper registers. And that, to my ears, sounds genuinely artificial. Give me that swaying, wavering soundstage down in the lower registers, too.

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Pastel Piano @pastel_piano · Sep 14
One of the defining characteristics of modern high-end audio is that holographic, virtual-reality-like soundstage, combined with high-speed, delicate, ever-higher-resolution sound quality. (That’s actually the direction I’ve been pursuing as my main goal as well…) Across the board, the quality of the bass and the sense of physical substance in the image tend to become secondary concerns. I get the feeling that recordings and playback equipment built around that kind of spatial reproduction — that “constructed” world — are fundamentally incompatible with Hi-Fi systems and recordings built around the physical substance of the sound image. Though I also feel that, really, the two ought to be reconcilable.

Cleopatra’s Daydream @cleopatrasdream · Sep 15
I’ll be honest. I’m not fond of that kind of sound. It’s because the mid-bass lacks body and physical presence, and it strikes me as an artificial beauty.

Pastel Piano @pastel_piano · Sep 15
Ah, yes — from our exchanges so far I have a fairly good sense of the direction you’re after, so don’t worry. Being half a child of the digital age myself, I find appeal in both the old ways of recording and playback and the modern style. Precisely because it’s so hard to have both at once, I end up with multiple systems…

Cleopatra’s Daydream @cleopatrasdream · Sep 15
I don’t actually separate soundstage and image in my thinking. If the sound gives the impression that one has been deliberately prioritised over the other, something feels unnatural and off to me.

Pastel Piano @pastel_piano · Sep 15
Quite right. Soundstage and image ought fundamentally to be inseparable — they are, in practical terms, a matter of the relationship between direct sound and reflected sound, yes? In the analogue era, there was inherent strength in the recording and reproduction of direct sound, and even if the noise floor prevented everything from coming through, the natural reflected sound was riding along with it. When digital came along and the S/N ratio improved, reflected sound could be recorded and reproduced right down to the finest detail — but at the same time, the available bit depth was simply nowhere near sufficient to capture the full energy of both image and soundstage together. The result was a sound with plenty of reverberation, but a thin, insubstantial direct sound. That’s how I think about it, anyway.

Cleopatra’s Daydream @cleopatrasdream · Sep 15
There’s also the difference between the human ear and a microphone — Hi-Fi as captured by a microphone and Hi-Fi as remembered by the human ear are two different things. Rather like memory colour, really… Whether your theory is right or wrong is something nobody can prove. Once sound has been recorded, the only way to hear it is through a playback system’s speakers. If I were to accept that theory, it would mean soundstage and image simply cannot coexist — so instead I choose to believe they can, and I keep searching for how, and that search has been what drives my progress in Hi-Fi.

Pastel Piano @pastel_piano · Sep 15
And that’s where hi-res sources like DSD come in. The thing is, when it comes to ordinary consumer Hi-Fi — whether a CD player fitted with a standard DAC can match the physical substance of direct sound from a turntable of equivalent or lower class on CD — I’m sorry to say I have yet to personally experience that. Ultra high-end players are another matter entirely, of course… On the other hand, a system where LP playback sounds no better than CD — or even worse, just noisier and thinner than CD — seems like it would be quite easy to put together.

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【Cleopatra’s Daydream × Pastel Piano: A Hi-Fi Discussion】
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  • パステルさん
    お久しぶりです
    しばらくオーディオから離れてこちらを覗きに来ていませんでしたが
    再開されていたのですね
    やっと追いつきましたw
    くれぐれもご自愛されつつ、ゆったりまったりと続けられることを応援致します。
    また、これからもよろしくお願いいたします。m(_ _)m

  • >TIGAさん
    こちらこそお久しぶりです~(*^-^*)/
    復帰後に、それまでの常連さんでコメントが無かったのがTIGAさんでしたので、社会人になられてオーディオまるっと卒業されちゃったかな?と思案しておりました。戻ってきてくれて嬉しいです♪
    ゆったりまったり>これ本当に難しいです。既に体の方に影響が出るレベルでかな~り無理してたりしますです(滝汗) 止まってしまうとまた放棄してしまうのが目に見えていますので、この辺りがすっごく悩みどころだったり。。。

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